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Old Jan 25, 2009, 10:47 PM // 22:47   #1
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Default Conjure + Barrage with heroes using splinter or Splinter Barrage?

Currently, two of my heroes are equipped with [splinter weapon]. My ranger also has splinter so I can boost my damage with barrage. The problem with my heroes is that they only cast it on me half the time so that's the reason why I took splinter on me as well. The other problem is that while I'm casting splinter on myself, my heroes casts it on me as well sometimes so I started thinking of taking conjure on my barrage instead. Do you think this is more effective?
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Old Jan 25, 2009, 11:17 PM // 23:17   #2
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conjure+spliter+[mark of pain]= intresting dp's
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Old Jan 25, 2009, 11:22 PM // 23:22   #3
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conjure+spliter+[mark of pain]= intresting dp's
Yes [mark of pain] is amazing, it almost makes me want to run necro full time. I just realised I can ping my key so I can force my heroes to cast it on me all the time but that means they wouldn't be casting their other spells much. I have splinter on my curse necro hero and n/rt healer.
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Old Jan 25, 2009, 11:28 PM // 23:28   #4
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Hero AI will target party members with Martial weapons on them. They cast splinter on heroes with caster swords/spears. Rather annoying.

If you'd rather save your energy, leave it to the heroes and bring conjure.
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Old Jan 25, 2009, 11:38 PM // 23:38   #5
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Hero AI will target party members with Martial weapons on them. They cast splinter on heroes with caster swords/spears. Rather annoying.

If you'd rather save your energy, leave it to the heroes and bring conjure.
Heroes tend to cast splinter weapon on healer henchmen first... yea it's rather annoying.

I usually micro splinter onto myself at the start of every fight so I can land a nice IA or Volley into a mob for 200-300ish damage. 1 copy on a Rit with 14 channeling is usually enough.
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Old Jan 26, 2009, 01:33 AM // 01:33   #6
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Good luck on pulling a conjure+mark of pain...
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Old Jan 26, 2009, 03:24 AM // 03:24   #7
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Remember that you can disable a hero's use of a skill by shift-clicking it. This allows you to manually cast it as you please, without the hero wasting energy spamming it where not needed.

You can also pump your damage from [[Barrage] a lot more by bringing the following skills:
[Order of Pain][By Ural's Hammer][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][I Am the Strongest]
Or if you have another human player with you -> [Great Dwarf Weapon]

Since you have all those damage boosts, I also suggest bringing [[Triple Shot] if you still have a PvE skill slot left. This does wonders against bosses with all of those buffs on you.

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Old Jan 26, 2009, 04:55 AM // 04:55   #8
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conjure+spliter+[mark of pain]= intresting dp's
Does not work. Read MoP's description closely.
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Old Jan 26, 2009, 06:17 AM // 06:17   #9
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I once went through FoW, with a ranger who was running volley and i can assure you mark of pain triggered.
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Old Jan 26, 2009, 07:43 AM // 07:43   #10
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I don't see any reason why [barrage] or [volley] wouldn't trigger [mark of pain]. Each arrow does physical damage. The problem is ... once your mark dies, you have to wait for [mark of pain] to recharge, and that's 20 seconds. So I like [barbs]; it's much more easily spammable, especially for your necro heroes.
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Old Jan 26, 2009, 08:19 AM // 08:19   #11
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I prefer my heros use interrupts as they are good with them.
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Old Jan 26, 2009, 09:03 AM // 09:03   #12
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I don't see any reason why [barrage] or [volley] wouldn't trigger [mark of pain]. Each arrow does physical damage. The problem is ... once your mark dies, you have to wait for [mark of pain] to recharge, and that's 20 seconds. So I like [barbs]; it's much more easily spammable, especially for your necro heroes.
When you wield an elemental weapon (conjure) it doesn't work. MoP only works with physical damage.

MoP + pets is pretty fun ^^
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Old Jan 26, 2009, 07:24 PM // 19:24   #13
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Ah, OK, if you're conjuring also, then yes, it doesn't trigger [mark of pain]. But by itself, [barrage] certainly does.
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Old Jan 26, 2009, 11:21 PM // 23:21   #14
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[Great Dwarf Weapon] on your pet is fun too and i guess it would trigger[Mark of Pain]
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